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저는 개인적으로는 출력석을 MOS-FET로 마무리한 파워앰프들의 절제 못하는 저역을 싫어합니다만(일부 프리앰프의 가늘고 거슬리는 소리를 착색해 주는 효과는 있지만) A202는 Toshiba의 2SB755,2SD845 2조를 채널당 Pair로 사용하여 풀어진(?) 저역이 아닌 음의 밀도감이 무척 좋은 파워앰프 입니다.
502는 한쪽당 "산켄 8개 도시바2개 해서 10개".(위에서 보면 한쪽당 5개만 보입니다만 .아래에도 5개씩 있습니다.) 합계 20개.
릴레이는 전원부 1개 양쪽에 2개씩 4개 있습니다.(검정색 .까만통 합계 5개가 맞습니다.)
전원부 릴레이는 그대로 쓰고 양쪽 릴레이 4개는 일제로 (흰색으로 보임) 교체 된겁니다.
ㅇ 하이엔드를 지향한 기기 닾게, 차갑지만, 야생마같은 다이나믹과 구동력을 부여주는 명기.
ㅇ 단, 국산의 가장 큰 취약점인 내구성(잔고장), 험 등.
해외포럼에서도 평이 같고, 상당히 많은 댓글들이 달려있다.
엄청 좋지만, 잘 돌아간다면! 이라고 한다. ^^
제짝인 SAE P102나 실용앰프로 유명한 중고가 15~25사이의 야마하 C70,80 프리앰프등과는 잘 맞지 않는다. 야마하 프리앰프는 분명 훌륭하지만, 맑고, 담백한 성향으로 SAE 파워 연결시, 너무 강성인 소리가 나오므로, 대다수가 진공관 프리앰프를 가장 추천한다.
502 매칭기
프리앰프는 제 짝인 P102 와 몇 가지 중급기로도 다 물려봤다. 일반적으로 프리가 영향을 많이 미치는데.... 본인의 경우 파워앰프 502의 차이가 절대적이였다.
ㅇKEF 104/2 : 502 매칭시, 경질의 소리. 산만하다.... 202파워시 답답......힘이 딸린 듯.
ㅇJBL L 112 , L 100 , 4312 등: 참으로 잘 맞는다. 물론, P102 프리만 아니면 된다(?) 구형 JBL 들은 세간의 평처럼 환상적인 매칭이다. JBL에 마란츠 계열을 많이 매칭하지만, 빈티지가 많다면, 한번 SAE502와 물려 보길 추천한다. 마란츠의 구수함 반면에, 퍼지는 저음을 단단하게 잡아준다. 마란츠에 연결시, pop 이나 빠른 템포는 벙벙거리는데, SAE 502와 물릴시, 멋지게 잘 나온다! 강추!
202 파워시, 저음 벙벙거림. 같은 SAE 라도,,,,502와는 레베루 차이가 크다.
결론 : 파워앰프의 성향이 워낙 강해서 (다이나믹하고, 칼같은 해상도), 적절한 프리앰프와 소스기기의 배합이 관건이라 할 수 있겠다. 제짝인 P102 는 쏘는 고역을 단순하게 답답하게 만들기만 한다. 답답하지 않고, 부드럽게 잡아줘야 하는데... 역시 오디오는 새삼 어렵다. 튜너나 CDP 도 잘 물려줘야겠고.... 프리도 맞춰줘야 하고...
또한 SAE 의 최대 단점인 험! DC 필터내장 멀티탭이나 차폐트랜스는 필수다. 202와 비교해서도, 502의 파워는.....참 끝내준다.
Sae 502 is 200 watts per channel. Built like a tank. $250 is a pretty reasonable price for that unit.
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If it is still there, can you test it? You rarely here of an SAE amp that dosen't work I've had my A202 for 20years, rated 100wpc, my Martin-Logans will pull 200wpc peaks with not a whimper from either, clean clear
Sure the load is dippin' into the 2ohm loads but?? Can't remember the designers name but he went on to build GAS and AMPZILLA indesrtucable tanks that sound awesome,
I would have to agree that if it worked and looked good that 250 would be a better than fair price.
SAE (IMO) made great products. By and large, there aren't a lot of unobtanium parts in them, either, particularly if you stick with their earlier product lines (the Mark and "00" lines, like the 2600 you have pictured).
They have a small but devoted fan base. I think part of the reason you don't see more about them here on AK is (a) they were primarily a separates company (their few receivers weren't that much to write home about) and (b) they had fairly limited distribution, so they are not as ubiquitous as many of the more popular brands here on AK, like Pioneer, Yamaha, Sansui, McIntosh, etc.
I think any of their earlier products are definitely worth considering (but I'm pretty biased).
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I have a SAE A502 Power amp inwork on a test stand. It sounds pretty frickin nice and authoritive( lotsa headroom)..just a minor LED power meter issue..
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When I was buying a Marantz receiver from a CL seller, we talked about different pieces of equipment. He said that SAE had an almost cult following (that's a good thing).
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I have a SAE tuner in my system. But I only listen to maybe 4 or 5 hours of FM a year.
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As a tech doing audio repair back in the '80s I saw a fair amount of SAE across my bench, as one of the local dealers had carried the line for years. While they seem to perform well there were some reliability issues with them, due to poor parts choices in manufacture mostly.
For instance the operating supply voltage in a power amp would be running a good 20% above the rated working voltage of the main electrolytics. I had trouble at first finding electrolytics of a more appropriate VDCW rating, but when I located a source I ordered several pair, in anticipation of seeing more of this model of SAE amp. I used them all within 3 years.
I talked with personnel at the store that had carried the line and they laughed and said SAE stands for "Smoking Always Electronics." And one of them went on to remark that some of the stuff came out of the box smoking.
But my take on it is that once the kinks are worked out it seems like decent gear.
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My first amp was a SAE. It was 100 watts per channel. I do not remember the model number. Purchased it in 1980 brand new for $500. Used and loved it for 10 years with no issues. Sold it after I bought a Carver M4.0T at 475 wpc.
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My 34 year old SAE 5000 Impulse Noise Click and Pop filter is still working great. Use it almost daily, any time I play records.
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Interesting comments regarding reliability and parts, here. I have a pretty decent sized collection of SAE (80+ pieces), and have only ever had two components fail in service, both of which were easily fixed by my tech. There may be a self-selection issue here (the defective units didn't survive to be purchased in the vintage market) but I can't say I've seen any reliability problems with mine.
Parts availability is generally good, with the exception of the LED modules for the D102 CD player and some of the VU meters (which I would expect to be hard to find for any other 30+ year old vintage product). The rocker switches on the "01" and "02" series can be problematic, but respond well to cleaning.
If you stick to the Mark and "00" series units, I can't imagine there is much difficulty in either fixing a broken unit, or in sourcing parts.
And a definite +1 to Jim's SAE Site, the best site for SAE info on the web (and a great guy, to boot).
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What did you think of their original Mark VI tuner? I owned one back in the 70's and recently bought one in its original wood case for my collection. I use it often but wonder what would happen if one of those nixie tubes went south.
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SAE made fine gear. Mainly separates. Can be hard to work on in some cases. The original era models were SAE's finest. The SAE Two line was mainly Japanese made and was lesser quality but still excellent. The Nixie tubes in the early tuners can be very scarce. Underrated in my opinion.
I bought an SAE Mark IVD based on my cousin's recommendation. He has owned his for 30+ years. I also have a Mark 30 preamp. That setup really sounds good.
Another good SAE info source is WardsWeb:
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I use it often but wonder what would happen if one of those nixie tubes went south.
The Mark VI uses Amperex ZM1000 Nixie tubes. If you watch eBay, they come up for sale every month or so. Not cheap, but not unobtainium, either.
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The SAE 31 pre and 32 power amp are an easy to obtain starter set, as they were pretty common and popular. SAE also made the first parametric EQs, which are great for solving tough room problems.
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In that case you can give it to me and I'll figure it out.
Seriously, I haven't seen one of those in years. It is a parametric equalizer. I owned one years ago. I completely forgot about it. Old age is a monster.
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This is a great EQ, as long as the pots are clean. A great add to any system.
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I have three SAE amps, tuner, eq and noise reduction unit. I love it all. The SAE amps have a nice warm sound and put out much more than one would think they were capable of. No reliability issues after several years ownership - and I've been known to crank these puppies! Perhaps I've been lucky, but I find them a great deal for the money.
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What did you think of their original Mark VI tuner? I owned one back in the 70's and recently bought one in its original wood case for my collection. I use it often but wonder what would happen if one of those nixie tubes went south.
I had seen one of those. but never had had cause to repair one. And I thus never had a chance to put one through its paces as far as sensitivity, selectivity and performance....
As far as the nixies go I might be able to help you if one goes sour--depending on what format the tube is. I just handled a box full of nixies in sorting and cleaning in one of the many rooms here at my place. About a dozen "compactron" style with the display on the top of the envelope. And not a duodecar, but rather a 13 pin circle with the space between 1 and 13.... #6844A...
Fat lotta good that will do most, I'm sure....
Best that one of your nixies should not nix on ya....
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I've got an SAE TWO pre-amp and tuner and two SAE power amps, a 2200 (100wpc) and a 2300 (150wpc) all are very fine pieces, in fact I sold my brother my Pioneer SA9100 and TX9100 amp and tuner to make room for the SAE gear, I would love to snag a 2100L preamp someday, untill then I'll keep my setup as it is.
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Interesting comments regarding reliability and parts, here. I have a pretty decent sized collection of SAE (80+ pieces), and have only ever had two components fail in service, both of which were easily fixed by my tech. There may be a self-selection issue here (the defective units didn't survive to be purchased in the vintage market) but I can't say I've seen any reliability problems with mine.
Parts availability is generally good, with the exception of the LED modules for the D102 CD player and some of the VU meters (which I would expect to be hard to find for any other 30+ year old vintage product). The rocker switches on the "01" and "02" series can be problematic, but respond well to cleaning.
If you stick to the Mark and "00" series units, I can't imagine there is much difficulty in either fixing a broken unit, or in sourcing parts.
And a definite +1 to Jim's SAE Site, the best site for SAE info on the web (and a great guy, to boot).
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Now I know where all the good SAE gear is, between You and Jim there's hardly anything left for the rest of us just kiddin' you have an awesome collection, and I love my SAE gear too
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I have an SAE T-102 tuner. It performs well enought for my FM needs and looks very good to boot! Fun to operate digital controls.
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Interesting comments regarding reliability and parts, here. I have a pretty decent sized collection of SAE (80+ pieces), and have only ever had two components fail in service, both of which were easily fixed by my tech. There may be a self-selection issue here (the defective units didn't survive to be purchased in the vintage market) but I can't say I've seen any reliability problems with mine.
Parts availability is generally good, with the exception of the LED modules for the D102 CD player and some of the VU meters (which I would expect to be hard to find for any other 30+ year old vintage product). The rocker switches on the "01" and "02" series can be problematic, but respond well to cleaning.
If you stick to the Mark and "00" series units, I can't imagine there is much difficulty in either fixing a broken unit, or in sourcing parts.
And a definite +1 to Jim's SAE Site, the best site for SAE info on the web (and a great guy, to boot).
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I've only owned their EQ's and I think they are the best in the business. I've has both the Parametric models 180 and then the 1800. Now, I am in the market for the 1800 once again but if funds and timing aloow, I see they also have a 2800!!. I will shoot for that. The 2800 looks fasinating. I want it!
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In that case you can give it to me and I'll figure it out.
Seriously, I haven't seen one of those in years. It is a parametric equalizer. I owned one years ago. I completely forgot about it. Old age is a monster.
Looks like the model 180. I could very well take it off your hands for ya. I know exactly how to use it.
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Why can't someone ever give me something like this
tell ya what Edriz, as soon as I unpack from moving and locate it in the boxes you can have it.
I will never use it and I'd rather see someone enjoy it than hoard it in a box in the attic.
BTW, it's a 1800 and was used in a church PA so it's in pretty good shape.
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tell ya what Edriz, as soon as I unpack from moving and locate it in the boxes you can have it.
I will never use it and I'd rather see someone enjoy it than hoard it in a box in the attic.
BTW, it's a 1800 and was used in a church PA so it's in pretty good shape.
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I found this SAE on the curb and grabbed it, a transistor in the power supply was bad (had hum) and I fixed it, but haven't used it in a system yet.
The other amp was in the "stack" too.
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So it seems like the consensus is that I should spend some money to restore my "01" series, correct? I have the amp, pre, tuner, and parametric eq sitting in a closet. What would be the upper limit to restore this stuff to it's former glory?
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I had a few SAE compoinents back in the day, but they have all been replaced with decidedly better gear. Still, they had some good stuff. I sold my 5000A pop and click machine some fourteen years after I bought it for more than I paid for it. RT Fan, you might want to dump that parametric equalizer. Whether it's and 1800 or 2800 doesn't matter. What they actually do to the sound is sometimes just plain bizarre.
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I've only owned their EQ's and I think they are the best in the business. I've has both the Parametric models 180 and then the 1800. Now, I am in the market for the 1800 once again but if funds and timing aloow, I see they also have a 2800!!. I will shoot for that. The 2800 looks fasinating. I want it!
I paid $490 for my SAE 2800 parametric EQ in 1978. It's still in my system, but rarely gets used anymore. It's never given me any trouble at all.
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I had a few SAE compoinents back in the day, but they have all been replaced with decidedly better gear. Still, they had some good stuff. I sold my 5000A pop and click machine some fourteen years after I bought it for more than I paid for it. RT Fan, you might want to dump that parametric equalizer. Whether it's and 1800 or 2800 doesn't matter. What they actually do to the sound is sometimes just plain bizarre.
There's nothing like the SAE parametric if it's used correctly
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I paid $490 for my SAE 2800 parametric EQ in 1978. It's still in my system, but rarely gets used anymore. It's never given me any trouble at all.
That's my new goal is the 2800.
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I found another pic for Edriz, it is the 1800 and I will be sending it to you soon. There's some old masking tape on the face but I expect it will clean up nice.
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That 1800 looks like mine, except I have rack handles where those silver screws are. There is nothing more versatile than a parametric EQ to dial in a desired sound, IMO.
However, I go through a LOT of faderlube on mine - very frustrating. Channel A works great - Channel B works when it's good and ready........and that's not often.
Classic Carl - Your 2800 looks very nice - THAT's an EQ!!
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I am trying for a 2800 also.
That is the mothership of EQ's
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I found another pic for Edriz, it is the 1800 and I will be sending it to you soon. There's some old masking tape on the face but I expect it will clean up nice.
Thats going to take a can or two of deox-it and faderlube...
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I had a few SAE compoinents back in the day, but they have all been replaced with decidedly better gear. Still, they had some good stuff. I sold my 5000A pop and click machine some fourteen years after I bought it for more than I paid for it. RT Fan, you might want to dump that parametric equalizer. Whether it's and 1800 or 2800 doesn't matter. What they actually do to the sound is sometimes just plain bizarre.
I still have the SAE 5000A "Impulse Noise Reduction System" - the tick and pop reducer. That thing really worked. A heavy hand on the sliding adjustment would result in pumping and distortion but a small amount would really help bad LP's.
Also found another use by accident. Back then I had a big C-Band satellite system and occasionally would have channels with ticking/popping on the two stereo audio tracks. The little tick and pop killer would completely eliminate them.
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I have a confession to make here: I can be very superficial. I have never, ever heard a single note played through a piece of SAE gear, but I would pick some up in a heartbeat if I could afford just because I think it is some of the coolest looking hardware ever produced (and I am not fond of black face hardware).
Having read lots of great reviews of SAE gear in my sonic youth influenced me as well, but I am a sucker for its appearance.
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Did you have to fix the Acurus amp also?
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I had a 2600 power amp - what a beast! I used it to drive power hungry OHM F's. It had a loud fan, and it looked better than it sounded, but it is one of the few pieces of gear I wish I hadn't let go. Darn.
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I still have the SAE 5000A "Impulse Noise Reduction System" - the tick and pop reducer. That thing really worked. A heavy hand on the sliding adjustment would result in pumping and distortion but a small amount would really help bad LP's.
Also found another use by accident. Back then I had a big C-Band satellite system and occasionally would have channels with ticking/popping on the two stereo audio tracks. The little tick and pop killer would completely eliminate them.
I was just checking one of those 5000A's out, if it takes the ticks and pops out of records, how does it hook yo and where?
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I was just checking one of those 5000A's out, if it takes the ticks and pops out of records, how does it hook yo and where?
I seem to recall that I had mine in a tape loop. That's how I used it with the satellite receiver as well as with the turntable. Just hit the tape monitor button to listen to it.
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I seem to recall that I had mine in a tape loop. That's how I used it with the satellite receiver as well as with the turntable. Just hit the tape monitor button to listen to it.
I may consider it, I was looking for the KLH Transient Noise Eliminator. I think it's the model 7000. That's when I saw this and I remembered yours
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My biggest amps are a pair of SAE 2401's with custom bridge networks. They can power ANYTHING! Sadly, since they are less than perfect cosmetically, and are rack mounted, they may soon have to go. Part of the age-old struggle between substance and style. I also have a 2500, which looks so much cooler with the big analog meters. It's also a rack mount, but I'm trying to convince my wife to let it stay.
If You want to or need to part ways with that 2500 I'd love to give it a good home, I have a special place in My rack waiting for one
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I have a confession to make here: I can be very superficial. I have never, ever heard a single note played through a piece of SAE gear, but I would pick some up in a heartbeat if I could afford just because I think it is some of the coolest looking hardware ever produced (and I am not fond of black face hardware).
Having read lots of great reviews of SAE gear in my sonic youth influenced me as well, but I am a sucker for its appearance.
I first listened to SAE gear in the 1970s and was hooked, of course as a highschool student my budget was shall we say "lacking" the funds to feed this hunger, now I can actually afford some of this gear and I am still impressed with the sound, I really love my SAE gear and nothing looks cooler than a rack full of it.
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My first quality system after high school ( Circa '74) consisted of a SAE Mk 30 and 31B and they were great. Sorry I got rid of them in consolidation move made after I got married in early 80's. I drove a pair of RtR HPR-12 Magnum speakers with them (These were also highly regarded back in their day). I had a AR-Xa turntable with Rabco linear tracking tonearm, a Dynaco FM-5 tuner, and Akai cassette deck to complement my system back in those days.
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Fully agree with the concern related to reliability - it was really very bad. They didn't have the rigor and experience of the major Japanese manufacturers of the '70s and '80s and their amps (especially) were fragile and prone to oscillation. We sold a lot of the gear and way too much of it ended up in the service departments.
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If it weren't for SAE I would never have gotten into this hobby/business.
I walked into a Tech Hi-Fi store in spring of 1971 and was treated to an SAE/OHM system that literally changed my life. I ended up selling a lot of SAE gear at my first job and especially remember the Mark IIIC being a great amplifier. I am searching for a Mark VI of VIB for my system. Anyone out there know where I can find one?
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Then there's this person trying to sell their S.A.E. stuff, and they've been trying for a while.
http://cgi.ebay.com/SAE-and-ESS-Mons...item1e55c11e4d
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My 34 year old SAE 5000 Impulse Noise Click and Pop filter is still working great. Use it almost daily, any time I play records.
Another reason I should never read these threads. Never heard of a SAE 5000 before, now it's a "must have" componet. One just sold on the bay for $39
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He's got to be smoking something at that price...
Yeah, and it's gotta be some pretty strong stuff.
He may have all that gear, and I'm sure it cost a pretty penny (I still remember looking at SAE gear in a hifi shop in Midland, MI in the late 70s and drooling), but the price is ludicrous. As is his ego.
And I doubt he knows how to set it up. there's a photo in there where he has his graphic EQ set up so each side's sliders make a lovely inverted symmetrical arc. Nice to look at, but looking at the room in which he has it housed (looks like a dumpy basement), it's probably not an EQ setup that'll actually work in that room.
I had a 10-band stereo graphic EQ for a while. Sold it and my old Sansui turntable when I bought my Philips turntable. I always figured that I never had it set up correctly for the room and lacked the equipment to set it up properly (and the patience). I figured that good gear went a long ways toward eliminating the need for an EQ.
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기종별 개발 연도 튜너 T102(1983), 프리앰프 P 102(1984), 파워앰프A202(1985), 카세트데크 C 102(1985), 이퀄라이저 앰프 E102(1985), 콤팩트 디스크 플레이어 D102(1986)
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상당기간 오래 사용한 제품이기도 하지만 인켈에서 미국시장까지 수출한
성능이나 디자인에서 특이한 제품이고 아직까지 동호인 사이에 인기있는 제품이기에...
간단한 평가입니다.
1. 파워앰프 : SAE A-502
상당한 출력을 자랑하는 국산 파워 앰프중에서는 나름대로 우수한 제품이라고 생각합니다. 특히 저음의 재생에 상당한 영향을 미치는 댐핑 팩터도 120 정도로 힘있는 앰프입니다.
장점 :
- 모노 브릿지가 된다.
- 바이와이어링이 지원된다.
단점 :
- 모노브릿지시에는 바이와이어링을 사용못함
- 상당히 열이 많은 편임.
- 잔고장이 많고 험이 나는 제품이 많음
- 스피커 단자가 불편함
2. 파워앰프 A-202
502 보다 한해 먼저 출시된 제품이지만 아직도 인기있는 모델입니다.
502 보다 파워에서는 밀리지만 나름대로의 안정성이 보장되는 제품이라고 봅니다.
장점 :
- 안정된 품질
- 가격대비 성능우수
단점 :
- 역시 스피커 단자가 불편
- 모노브릿지 사용 불가능
3. 프리앰프 P-102
제가 턴테이블 MC 카트리지를 사용할려고 제일 먼저 구입했던 제품입니다.
다양한 기능과 사용의 편이성을 갖춘 제품이라고 봅니다.
음질에 대해선 말이 많지만 일정 수준이상은 됩니다.
장점 :
- 포노 MM/MC 지원
- 이큐 연결단자 별도 제공
- 프리 출력이 두개라서 바이 앰핑도 가능
단점 :
- 다소 사용이 복잡함
- 소리의 성향이 다소 딱딱한건 사실(이건 미국적 성향에 맞춘결과가 아닐까 라고 추측)
4. 이퀄라이져 E-102
상당히 디자인이나 기능이 우수한 제품으로 이퀄라이져 인기가 없는 지금도 사랑을 받는제품으로 시리즈중에 항상 마지막에 풀세트 구성을 위해서 구하게 되는 제품입니다.
장점 :
- 그냥 패스시킬때 음질 열화가 거의 없슴
- 우수한 디자인
단점 :
- 왜 있어야 하는지 별로 의미가 없는건 사실
- 비쥬얼한 부분이 부족함
5. 카세트 데크 C-101
국내 데크중에 3헤드인 몇 안되는 제품중에 하나이며 고급 데크로서의 기능을 모두
갖춘 제품입니다.
장점 :
- 우수한 내구성
- 녹음시 필요한 바이어스 조정이 다양하게 제공됨
- 3헤드이므로 녹음 상태 실시간 확인 가능
단점 :
- 기능이 너무 많아서 편의성은 떨어짐
- 다른 기기에 비해서 덩치가 큼
6. 데크 C-102
슬라이딩 방식으로 메카니즘 자체가 완전히 노출이 되는 제품입니다.
내구성이 강한 센더스트 헤드 채용
장점 :
- 헤드의 수명이 반 영구적임
- 101 에 비해서 사용이 편함
단점 :
- 3헤드가 아니어서 녹음 상태 직접 확인이 안됨
- 슬라이딩 부분이 자주 고장남(메카니즘이 너무 무거운 탓이 아닐까 라고 추정)
7. 튜너 T-102
SAE 시리즈중에 프리,파워 다음으로 인기가 있는 제품이 아닐까 합니다. 상당히 명료한 음질과 고급 튜너의 기능을 모두 갖춘 제품입니다.
장점 :
- IF.HI-BLEND 등 고급 튜너 기능 제공
- 양호한 음질
단점 :
- 기억장소가 다소 모자란 듯함(요즘의 튜너에 비해서...)
- 튜닝이 자주 틀어짐(간단히 수리 가능)
8. 시디피 D-102/103
필립스 고급 메카를 사용한 제품으로 아직도 인기가 높은 제품
장점 :
- 부드러운 음색
- 선곡시 다음 곡 연주시 까지 연주가 계속됨
- 리모콘 지원
단점 :
- 픽업이나 메카 수리비가 비쌈
- 표시창 불량이 많음
아주 간단히 적어 보았습니다.
이 제품들은 국내보다 미국에서 더 비싼 가격에 거래되면서 국위선양(?)에
일조를 한제품들로 제 개인적으로 상당히 애착이 가는 제품입니다.
구태여 외국 제품과의 가격 비교를 한다면 가격대비 최소 1.5배 정도의 외국제품과
동일한 또는 그 이상의 성능이라고 보시면 무리가 없을듯...
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